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I’m very interested in seeing [and maybe buying] the new BMW X5 45e, but I’m getting so impatient waiting for it. When will it be out?

Waiting for that new model to release can certainly feel like torture—especially when it’s a luxury plug-in hybrid we’re talking about. Luckily, it seems that we won’t have to wait too much longer. The 2023 BMW X5 45e [aka the xDrive45e] release date is expected for late September 2022.

To tide you over until then, here’s what we know about the 2023 BMW X5 45e so far:

  • Starting price is jumping to $65,700
  • All-electric driving range isn’t out yet, but is expected to be similar to the 2022 45e’s EPA-estimated 31 miles
  • Its turbocharged 3.0L inline-six engine and electric motor will produce 389-hp and 443 lb-ft of torque
  • Estimated fuel economy is 50 combined MPGe in electric mode and 20 mpg in hybrid mode

Hopefully, we’ll be learning much more about this high-class, luxury energy saver in the weeks to come. Remember, you can always test drive the current BMW X5 45e if you want to get a little taste of the 2023 model sooner. Experts predict that not much is going to change between model years, so the driving experience may be closer than you think.

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          03-20-2022, 10:33 AM   #1

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    2023 45e engine

    Hello,

    Any opinions about � The 2023 BMW X5 xDrive45e is also rumored to get a power bump from 389 horsepower to 480 hp. The new B58 T�2 [B58B30M2] engine will also be used under the hood of the popular BMW X5 plug-in hybrid.�

    Not sure if it will be better to wait next year? Also want to be able to get federal tax credit. I understnd that these are just rumours but that will be a signifcant jump in hp.

    //www.bmwblog.com/2022/03/19/2...ft-april-2023/

    Thank you.

          03-20-2022, 11:51 AM   #2

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    Educated guesswork here, but here's my thought.

    There won't be a meaningful increase in the power output of the electric motor. BMW will likely keep it close to 82kW [110HP], as it has in the first and current generation of X5 eDrive vehicles. The 45e will get a slight upgrade in power from a re-tuning of the current B58 engine.

    And [my pure speculation]: BMW will introduce an X5 M50e next year as a 2024 MY. It will get the new B58B30M2 AND the electric drivetrain of the regular 45e. This means 370 from the dino engine and 110 from the electric, for a combined 480HP. Obviously, it would be positioned in the same optioning tier as the other Ms.

    If this were to happen, I would personally be interested since I'm one of the strange ones that actually care about efficiency for efficency's sake and vowed to no longer own a vehicle that couldn't achieve at least 20mpg combined, which is the only thing keeping me from an X5 M50i

    Also:

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          03-20-2022, 11:58 AM   #3

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    ^makes more sense

    My question that no one seems to know: why the current engine is detuned [assume reliability] and the next engine will not be detuned?

    Is the current detuned not to eat the V8 X5 and used the reliability excuse

    I remember that you can tune the current ICE 45e to get the full power

          03-20-2022, 01:54 PM   #4

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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Di3s3l_Power

    Is the current detuned not to eat the V8 X5 and used the reliability excuse

    I don't think so, the changes look like reliability changes.

    Max revs is down by 500, max torque is unchanged, but ends way earlier [3500 instead of 5200]. I don't know where but there was als an interview some time ago with the information that the 45e engine also git different pistons and a few other changes to cope better with the challenges in a hybrid environment [many more start/stops, more cold oil situations].

    The data on the new 7 series hybrid configurations don't yet make sense to me. The 560 hp thing seems more like a non-M version of the XM powertrain to me [detuned V8 + electric].

    The rumoured 480 for the 45e seem possible to me if they bump the electric to 130 and detune the ICE less than they did with the current one. The 560 just seems too much for R6 based hybrid

          03-21-2022, 05:02 AM   #5

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    A stronger electric motor would be highly appreciated and not only a stronger ICE, but above all the possibility for faster charging would be the best upgrade. The current 3,7 kW is just too slow, especially considering that the new BMW 2 AT PHEV can charge at 7,4kW. I can�t imagine that the new G70 45ex [the 480 hp PHEV] would only be able to charge at 3,7kW so cross my fingers that the assumed faster charging capability of the G70 also make it into the X5 LCI.

          03-21-2022, 07:03 AM   #6

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    Seems strange they would focus any resources on the B58 as people seem to like that part of the drivetrain. Charging times, range, and electric motor size seem like more relevant areas to improve but who knows what BMW is thinking.

          03-21-2022, 03:43 PM   #8

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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by allinon72

    Seems strange they would focus any resources on the B58 as people seem to like that part of the drivetrain. Charging times, range, and electric motor size seem like more relevant areas to improve but who knows what BMW is thinking.

    I agree.

    As a driver of 45e, my priorities for the LCI would be:
    1. Faster charging [50kW]
    2. Stronger electric motor
    3. Bigger battery than the current with ~25kWh of usable energy

    A more powerful engine is not a priority as I seldom use the combustion engine and simply don�t care. Coming to X5 from M3, I couldn�t believe that the electric transition would happen so quickly.

    My lease deal with X5 is ending in 2025. If X5 LCI is not delivering electric feature improvement, and there are no unexpected pure electric BMW SUV models, I will change the brand. It feels bad after 15 years of BMW, but I have no options as BMW cannot seemingly keep up with the electric development.

    The iX is a no go because of aesthetics. Furthermore, I�m not impressed of its spec either. Probably Mercedes EQS SUV will outcompete the iX.

          04-11-2022, 04:59 PM   #9

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    The extra HP is fine, but without more usage range from the electrified side it will be useless. I love my '21, but I can only imagine how much shorter the range will be with an increase in the electric motor.

          04-11-2022, 05:31 PM   #10

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    FWIW, more maximum power in an EV motor, other than the potential weight gain, only ends up using more power when you use it. The potential advantage would be it might promote less activation of the ICE when in hybrid mode, but unless you enlarge the battery, one of the good things about the 45e, is the max EV range.

    As it is now, unless you have access to a free or at home charging, it generally doesn't make sense to charge it away from home. If you regularly exceed the EV range before you can recharge, yes, faster charging can be useful, but otherwise, it's extra costs for not as much gain. Keep in mind that faster charging would almost certainly require larger cooling capacity, and room to put the larger charging unit...all that adds costs, raises weight, and makes a tight packaging situation worse, making maintenance more expensive, too.

    When the next X5 comes out, it will be geared more for EV and PHEV operations rather than purely ICE.

    From a marketing standpoint, they have to be careful about the available power on the various versions to keep the M cars on top as well as the V8 above the I6's.

          04-12-2022, 03:59 PM   #11

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    With the LCI, some improvements are almost guaranteed, whether it'd be the 45e or 50e. I know many are holding out on the LCI.
    There are 2 things that I see could be big factors, first will be the price increase, pretty sure 50e will be quite a bit higher than 45e. Secondly, the $7500 tax credit could be gone by the time LCI comes out, unless the new bill get passed. Just something to think about.

          04-12-2022, 04:47 PM   #12

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    That's a good point, if the 50e does come out, I would assume a fully loaded 50e will be north of $90k and without the federal tax credit, I might consider other cars

          04-12-2022, 07:01 PM   #13

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    As a new 45e owner my priority would be less weight, keep the electric motor/batteries the same, no need to add more weight with faster charging [not sure what everyone talks about as this thing charges just fine overnight] and I'm glad they're increasing the output of the ICE since I'll be doing that anyways when I unlock my ECU in a short period of time.

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          04-12-2022, 09:44 PM   #14

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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by comebackidlci

    That's a good point, if the 50e does come out, I would assume a fully loaded 50e will be north of $90k and without the federal tax credit, I might consider other cars

    If that's the case why even bother then? Might as well just get an iX for that price.

          04-12-2022, 10:17 PM   #15

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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maverick241

    If that's the case why even bother then? Might as well just get an iX for that price.

    I think his guess of the price is way high. Mine is that it will be less than $5k more than the current price, probably around 2.5k.

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          04-12-2022, 10:28 PM   #16

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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maverick241

    If that's the case why even bother then? Might as well just get an iX for that price.

    Fundamentally different vehicles? Folks either want a full EV or they don�t from what I have seen, plug-ins are the middle ground. The 45e/50e don�t really compete with the iX.

          04-12-2022, 11:49 PM   #17

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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

    I think his guess of the price is way high. Mine is that it will be less than $5k more than the current price, probably around 2.5k.

    Just for the record, I was comparing a fully loaded 2021 vs fully loaded LCI with the hopeful assumption BW audio and acoustic glass will be present

          04-13-2022, 10:41 AM   #18

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    My 2cents is that the current iX isn't that great, but the current PHEVs are a really nice bridge while the iX matures. I think the price increase will be small from 45e to 50e. Like M2 to M2 comp

          04-14-2022, 01:22 PM   #19

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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by medphysdave

    My 2cents is that the current iX isn't that great, but the current PHEVs are a really nice bridge while the iX matures. I think the price increase will be small from 45e to 50e. Like M2 to M2 comp

    I thought the iX was really impressive, the drive was awesome, it was super quick and quiet, and the bang and olufsen sound system was off the wall insane. Loved it.

          04-14-2022, 01:23 PM   #20

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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

    I think his guess of the price is way high. Mine is that it will be less than $5k more than the current price, probably around 2.5k.

    I think you may be right.

          04-14-2022, 01:31 PM   #21

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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maverick241

    I thought the iX was really impressive, the drive was awesome, it was super quick and quiet, and the bang and olufsen sound system was off the wall insane. Loved it.

    Your right, I should have been more descriptive about what I meant by not that great. As a vehicle it does execute very well. I felt like the current iX is in a state of identity crisis. The overall exterior look. The interior feels like a transition to me as opposed to a final vision. I'm trying to be a new era, but I still need to appeal to the previous generation. Nothing visual was a Wow factor. But you can't deny how well the parts perform.

          04-14-2022, 01:32 PM   #22

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    X7 went up by 4% so I suppose we could expect the same for the x5 variants.

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