So sánh sony a6000 và fuji xt1 năm 2024

Please don't take this as a flame post, it is a serious question I have. I have been shooting long enough and have had enough gear over the years to not have to ask these type of questions but it seems like it almost like a disease - the always looking for something better disease.

I do not want to do anymore wedding photography and will limit my portraits. No more sports photography other than my son's eight grade team (he is a mid school head coach). For travel and some sports I feel like my Pany FZ1000 will be perfect. I also own the RX10 which I really like. I thought an Oly system would be perfect for when I want a higher quality shot and for hiking. My hiking days will be more limited because of physical issues and I really do not like the menu system.

I was going to sell my Sony a6000 but I liked using that camera over the Oly OMD 5 M2. I was thinking of just adding the 10-18 Sony lens for when I need wide and maybe getting one really good prime for those times when I may want to make a large print of a scene. I use the 16-70 lens for the few events and portraits I may still shoot.

The XT-1 caught my attention as like Olympus it has a good lens selection. What surprises me is it is an APC sensor yet it is only 16 megapixels, unlike 24 the a6000 offers. I know enough to know it is not all about how many pixels the camera has, but it does make me wonder what the benefits are for the XT-1 over the a6000. Is high iso shooting (1600-3200 iso) that much better and is dynamic range better? Would the Fuji 10-24 lens be any better than the Sony 10-18 lens? Would the Fuji 16-55 2.8 be a sharper lens then the Sony 16-70?

I am guessing one advantage of the Fuji over the Oly is the larger sensor. I am just surprised the resolution is the same as a 4/3 system and less than the a6000 or Samsung NX1.

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Re: Why XT-1 over Sony a6000?

gary stepic wrote: I am guessing one advantage of the Fuji over the Oly is the larger sensor. I am just surprised the resolution is the same as a 4/3 system and less than the a6000 or Samsung NX1.

As shown by the 12MP full frame Sony A7S2, resolution and sensor size are unrelated.

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i'm also a heavy sony user but FF system...i was in apsc sony but sony apsc lenses are very limited and fastest ones are F1.8 max...simply Fuji lens selections are far superior to sony apsc...if you've budget, i'd suggest both system...A6000+SEL1018 is unmatchable at Fuji, and then you can choose other lenses from Fuji.

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XEddieX • Contributing Member • Posts: 766

Re: Why XT-1 over Sony a6000?

Well if you wait about a month they'll be announcing the successor to the X-Pro. From all rumors I've seen, and images from the camera, everything seems to indicate it will be a 24mp sensor.

Now more then likely, this sensor will also be used in the X-T1 successor, but as far as the release of the camera, that's another story.

So eventually you will get your 24mp sensor. You just have to be patient if you really want it.

As for me, I moved from my ancient Canon 30D's (8mp) to my XT-1. So I really can't tell you if a 24mp Bayer will really improve images than the 16mp X-Trans sensor. It did from my end.

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Eugene232 • Regular Member • Posts: 364

Re: Why XT-1 over Sony a6000?

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imo from A600 to xt1 is not an upgrade in IQ,

even downgrade

plus xt1 is overpriced

I'd go for A7 series

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Duri • Regular Member • Posts: 276

Re: Why XT-1 over Sony a6000?

I was upgrading from ancient but great Fujifilm S5Pro* and considered Oly EM5, Sony A6000, Fuji X-T1.

Oly - great IBIS, lightweight, fast autofocus, nice JPG colors, good selection of lenses, but no reasonable priced standard zoom (better than 12-50, but cheaper that 12-40)

Sony - fast autofocus, good image quality although I didn't like OOC color, poor selection of lenses

X-T1 - nice handling, great OOC JPG, fantastic viefinder, very good lens lineup, a bit pricier

I went for X-T1 and no regrets. Huge limitation is still there even after upgrade and it's me. No matter which camera I upgrade to, nothing beats pictures from my first Canon Powershot S30 and then Nikon D50 - that time I was enthusiastic, I was reading, practicing and experimenting much more than now...

* I wish Fuji would continue with that type pf sensor, DR captured in JPG was amazing

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Re: Why XT-1 over Sony a6000?

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OP gary stepic • Veteran Member • Posts: 5,205

Re: Why XT-1 over Sony a6000?

I can afford to be patient, so maybe it would be wise to see what the a6000 upgrade will look like. I have really limited what I am shooting now, and the FZ1000 for so much of what I want to do is just fine. I have owned the Canon 5DM2, 7D, Nikon D800, D7100 and thought these we all very good cameras. I had a dream of doing gallery type work so at one point being able to produce a large print was a big deal to me. Now I am seeing a 16x20 or 30x20 will be large enough and what I have should do just fine.

The lens selection of Fuji does appear to be very good, and that is what caught my attention. I do find I am hating to change lenses more and more so the a6000 with the 10-18 lens and Pany FZ1000 will be all I need for vacations. I probably will add one or two primes for those times when I need lens speed and the best resolution.

Funny, since I have retired I am finding I can do way more financially (between my job retirement, social security, and great part time job I make more then my preretirement job and have more free time). The Fuji Pro upgrade will be on my radar and I am already impressed with Fuji's lenses. I know what I have is pretty good but improvements in dynamic range and high iso shooting are always something I look for.

Gary

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ijustloveshooting wrote:
Jared Huntr wrote:
Eugene232 wrote:

imo from A600 to xt1 is not an upgrade in IQ,

even downgrade

plus xt1 is overpriced

I'd go for A7 series

The story changes as ISO increases...

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison?attr18=daylight&attr13_0=sony_a6000&attr13_1=fujifilm_xt10&attr13_2=fujifilm_xt10&attr13_3=canon_eos5dmkii&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=3200&attr16_1=3200&attr16_2=3200&attr16_3=3200&normalization=full&widget=1&x=-0.547061576538831&y=0.11540875998622886
nope,,, with true iso ratings, it doesn't change....if you take what fuji camera say serious, then my X-A1 has better high iso than my A7ii

Even giving the a6000 a full stop advantage, it has much worse color noise than either the X-T1 or your XA2. The X-T1 is not as sharp but that can be fixed somewhat in post; the Sony's higher res sensor helps it here, but does nothing for the color noise and as soon as you apply the noise reduction needed to clean up the noise, the A6000's better sharpness is going away.

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MrFresno • Veteran Member • Posts: 3,197

Re: Why XT-1 over Sony a6000?

darngooddesign wrote:
ijustloveshooting wrote:
Jared Huntr wrote:
Eugene232 wrote:

imo from A600 to xt1 is not an upgrade in IQ,

even downgrade

plus xt1 is overpriced

I'd go for A7 series

The story changes as ISO increases...

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison?attr18=daylight&attr13_0=sony_a6000&attr13_1=fujifilm_xt10&attr13_2=fujifilm_xt10&attr13_3=canon_eos5dmkii&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=3200&attr16_1=3200&attr16_2=3200&attr16_3=3200&normalization=full&widget=1&x=-0.547061576538831&y=0.11540875998622886
nope,,, with true iso ratings, it doesn't change....if you take what fuji camera say serious, then my X-A1 has better high iso than my A7ii

Even giving the a6000 a full stop advantage, it has much worse color noise than either the X-T1 or your XA2. The X-T1 is not as sharp but that can be fixed somewhat in post; the Sony's higher res sensor helps it here, but does nothing for the color noise and as soon as you apply the noise reduction needed to clean up the noise, the A6000's better sharpness is going away.

Fuji doesn't have less color noise than other cameras. LR removes more color noise from X-Trans images than from Bayer images. The DPR tool is showing stronger NR, not less noise.

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Re: Why XT-1 over Sony a6000?

In reply to MrFresno • Dec 12, 2015

Randy Benter wrote:
darngooddesign wrote:
ijustloveshooting wrote:
Jared Huntr wrote:
Eugene232 wrote:

imo from A600 to xt1 is not an upgrade in IQ,

even downgrade

plus xt1 is overpriced

I'd go for A7 series

The story changes as ISO increases...

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison?attr18=daylight&attr13_0=sony_a6000&attr13_1=fujifilm_xt10&attr13_2=fujifilm_xt10&attr13_3=canon_eos5dmkii&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=3200&attr16_1=3200&attr16_2=3200&attr16_3=3200&normalization=full&widget=1&x=-0.547061576538831&y=0.11540875998622886
nope,,, with true iso ratings, it doesn't change....if you take what fuji camera say serious, then my X-A1 has better high iso than my A7ii

Even giving the a6000 a full stop advantage, it has much worse color noise than either the X-T1 or your XA2. The X-T1 is not as sharp but that can be fixed somewhat in post; the Sony's higher res sensor helps it here, but does nothing for the color noise and as soon as you apply the noise reduction needed to clean up the noise, the A6000's better sharpness is going away.

Fuji doesn't have less color noise than other cameras. LR removes more color noise from X-Trans images than from Bayer images. The DPR tool is showing stronger NR, not less noise.

Explain how the Fuji XA1 has less color noise than the A6000.

Even if that's true, as soon as you apply an equivalent amount of NR to the Sony images, the sharpness advantage disappears.

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MrFresno • Veteran Member • Posts: 3,197

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darngooddesign wrote:
Randy Benter wrote:
darngooddesign wrote:
ijustloveshooting wrote:
Jared Huntr wrote:
Eugene232 wrote:

imo from A600 to xt1 is not an upgrade in IQ,

even downgrade

plus xt1 is overpriced

I'd go for A7 series

The story changes as ISO increases...

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison?attr18=daylight&attr13_0=sony_a6000&attr13_1=fujifilm_xt10&attr13_2=fujifilm_xt10&attr13_3=canon_eos5dmkii&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=3200&attr16_1=3200&attr16_2=3200&attr16_3=3200&normalization=full&widget=1&x=-0.547061576538831&y=0.11540875998622886
nope,,, with true iso ratings, it doesn't change....if you take what fuji camera say serious, then my X-A1 has better high iso than my A7ii

Even giving the a6000 a full stop advantage, it has much worse color noise than either the X-T1 or your XA2. The X-T1 is not as sharp but that can be fixed somewhat in post; the Sony's higher res sensor helps it here, but does nothing for the color noise and as soon as you apply the noise reduction needed to clean up the noise, the A6000's better sharpness is going away.

Fuji doesn't have less color noise than other cameras. LR removes more color noise from X-Trans images than from Bayer images. The DPR tool is showing stronger NR, not less noise.
Explain how the Fuji XA1 has less color noise than the A6000.

It doesn't. One should click "comp" when comparing images of different resolution. The A600 just looks noisier because it is larger.

Even if that's true, as soon as you apply an equivalent amount of NR to the Sony images, the sharpness advantage disappears.

Yes of course. Fuji fans often use the DPR tool to show that Fuji has less noise, while opponents use it to show Fuji has less detail. Neither is true; The tool is really just showing that Adobe's handling of Fuji produces images with less noise and less detail. Most APS-C sensors (not Canon) are roughly equal when it comes to noise and detail.

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OP gary stepic • Veteran Member • Posts: 5,205

how does Fuji 10-24 lens compare to Sony 10-18 lens?

In reply to XEddieX • Dec 12, 2015

What appeals to me about the Fuji ultra-wide is the expanded range. The price is close to the Sony lens and both lenses are 4.0. I have to check if the Sony has image stabilization. I will not be buying anything until May of next year. Sony makes some very good camera bodies but I am not impressed with their lenses, E or FE.

I know there will most likely be a a6000 upgrade soon but I still have a hard time getting past my dislike for Sony lenses. So I will be very curious to see what happens early next year or late spring.

Gary

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I don't own either camera but have investigated and tried out both in serious consideration of buying. To me the major difference is in handling, ergonomics and shooting experience. The Fuji , with its dials and aperture rings (on the lenses that interest me), just seems much more like a "real camera". I enjoyed using it much more than I do using the Sony, with its menu and thumb wheel interface. If I was willing to move to an EVF at this time, I would definitely bought the XT-1. Frankly, I wouldn't have the Sony on a bet.

As it is, I decided to wait on the ILC for now (letting the EVF evolve another generation or two) and bought an X100T. Now, of course, having experienced that lovely hybrid viewfinder, I am waiting for the XPro 2.

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Acrill • Veteran Member • Posts: 3,166

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Pictures look better with the X-T1, especially with the right lenses.

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KEG • Veteran Member • Posts: 5,086

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XF 50-140.

there is nothing remotely comparative to it in the sony lineup.

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ijustloveshooting wrote:
Jared Huntr wrote:
Eugene232 wrote:

imo from A600 to xt1 is not an upgrade in IQ,

even downgrade

plus xt1 is overpriced

I'd go for A7 series

The story changes as ISO increases...

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison?attr18=daylight&attr13_0=sony_a6000&attr13_1=fujifilm_xt10&attr13_2=fujifilm_xt10&attr13_3=canon_eos5dmkii&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=3200&attr16_1=3200&attr16_2=3200&attr16_3=3200&normalization=full&widget=1&x=-0.547061576538831&y=0.11540875998622886

nope,,, with true iso ratings, it doesn't change....if you take what fuji camera say serious, then my X-A1 has better high iso than my A7ii

How is that possible when both Sony and Fuji have the same exposure settings? Both were shot at ISO 3200, 1/1250 sec, f5.6 and both have the same general brightness for the image.

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KEG • Veteran Member • Posts: 5,086

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In my honest opinion there is something seriosly f*up with the x-t1 studio shots, the x-t10 shots are sharper.

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Jim Evidon • Contributing Member • Posts: 951

Re: Asking The Wrong Question A6000 Vs. XT1

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I bought my wife the A6000 to replace her aging Sony A33. I have the Fuji XPro-1 which has the same sensor as the XT-1. I also have the OM-D E-5M, so I am familiar with all three cameras.

The OM-D, because of the smaller MTF sensor has less ability to do very large prints or extreme cropping. I consider 17 X 19 a safe upper limit.

The Sony A6000 which is an APSC size sensor is the best sensor of the lot when it comes to IQ and ability to make very large prints. The Fuji X, also APSC, however, is in a whole different class and the reason to favor it over the others has to do with the XTrans filter array and the firmware that processes the image. First off, the FujiX is for all practical purposes, noise free. There is little difference between ISO 200 and ISO 6400 when it come to electronic noise. I find the Fuji X to have the widest tonal range from shadows to highlights. Finally, Fuji's color interpretation when it comes to jpeg film simulation to be better than most, probably due to that company's long history with color film.

The downside to Fuji XTrans is in post processing RAW development. Because it has Xtrans and not a Bayer filter array, the RAW image conversion in LR and some of the other more common apps is not the best. However, if you use Capture One, Irident Developer or, Photo Ninja, the RAW conversion of Fuji X images are nothing short of spectacular.

As for the number of megapixels, if you are printing no larger than 20 x 30 inches, you will find little difference in print resolution between 16 and 24 megapixels providing the sensor format is the same size (in this case APSC ) . But the A6000, because of the higher megapixel count (resolution) allows you to crop to do a greater degree than the competition.

Aside from all that, the lens selection and quality for the Sony A6000 is really pretty miserable and limited. And lens quality is really more important than sensor pixel counting because as I said, all of these sensors are really very good.

Fuji lenses are really very high quality and the lens selection is much larger than you will have with an E mount Sony camera. The lens selection is equally impressive with the MFT cameras made by Olympus and even the MTF Panasonic with its Leica formulated lenses. To get equal lens quality on a Sony camera, you would have to use the very expensive Zeiss branded lenses to get as large an aperture and IQ as can be had with the Olympus, Fuji or Leica branded Panasonic lenses. My Fuji lenses range from f2.8 to 1.4 in various prime and zoom focal lengths. You will find that the E mount APSC Sony lenses are for the most part smaller. This is an important consideration in low light.